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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 01:41:00 -
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This is whats going to happen, on the 15th many accounts will be activated as people start up skills on the characters they want to keep and start skills/move items from there alts getting them ready to sell/offline. Within the next 3 months the number of total subscribers will drop.
I personally have 3 accounts. I will be moving one character to my main account and deactivating the two accounts.
All I hope is that you will admit your mistake and reinstate this if worse comes to worse, if not EVE online will die.
-2 accounts here.
P.S. Your blog didn't say anything about why it was so sudden and unannounced and what will happen with other inactive account issues.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 02:28:00 -
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I hate to say it, but did anyone at CCP every consider that this surge of "Ghost Training" accounts might just be people quitting eve.... I mean if I was to quit I would put a nice long skill on for the hell of it.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 04:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Triksterism
I would like to compare this to ice cream. Ice cream is delicious, this is not. Fin.
Props for the MST3K sig!!!
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 04:45:00 -
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Edited by: INF Wonderwoman on 14/10/2008 04:46:39
Originally by: Zabaticus
It's a very simple and beautiful concept; No pay, no play, then no training. Let's hope they kill the other "Ghosts" with malice.
Zabaticus
I wonder how long people who are against this have been playing. I'm sorry but if you have only been playing for a year or less you have no idea. When you hit 3 to 4 years and get to the FEW very long skills (carrier 5, capitol 5, ....) you would have loved being able to take advantage of this. To pay 30 USD just to get carrier 5.... its stupid.
PS. Yes this is an alt, because my main is "Ghost Training" carrier 5 right now, lucky for me I only have 9 days left. Had I not gotten this skill I would not be coming back.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
Adapt and overcome. Get over it already and move on. Either pay to play or let your accounts lapse and don't come back. Pretty simple if you stop and think about it.
Yes, just step aside and let the "government" do what they want... This is a player based game and we have the right to say whats good or not. If you get someone in office that wants to blow up all of Asia, do you say adapt and overcome,just get over it? .... stupid.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Triksterism
BEHOLD! THE GHOST TRAIN!
Thank you Ghost Train!!!
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sen Black
http://www.eve-online.com/features/
"Exclusive offline skill advancement"
So, it was a bug ? Exploit ?
Its been said before, but offline is not the same as inactive, the inactive portion is stated elsewhere.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
Originally by: INF Wonderwoman
Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
Adapt and overcome. Get over it already and move on. Either pay to play or let your accounts lapse and don't come back. Pretty simple if you stop and think about it.
Yes, just step aside and let the "government" do what they want... This is a player based game and we have the right to say whats good or not. If you get someone in office that wants to blow up all of Asia, do you say adapt and overcome,just get over it? .... stupid.
Uhm.. we are comparing playing a game to running a country and blowing up another? CCP owns their game and can make whatever changes they like. We either like it or we don't and we either keep paying or we don't. Lets not make this out to be more than it is.
I'm not saying its a country, just pointing out that you maybe willing to step aside and let this game go, but we as players have an option to discuss our opinions and actually have a chance, how ever small it maybe, to change there decision. So by all means, step aside, I will not.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: HuntedMaster
Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
Originally by: INF Wonderwoman
Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
Adapt and overcome. Get over it already and move on. Either pay to play or let your accounts lapse and don't come back. Pretty simple if you stop and think about it.
Yes, just step aside and let the "government" do what they want... This is a player based game and we have the right to say whats good or not. If you get someone in office that wants to blow up all of Asia, do you say adapt and overcome,just get over it? .... stupid.
Uhm.. we are comparing playing a game to running a country and blowing up another? CCP owns their game and can make whatever changes they like. We either like it or we don't and we either keep paying or we don't. Lets not make this out to be more than it is.
So people who support something , and actually make something what it is shouldnt speak up?...And give CCP the oppurtunty for feed back and a chance to change something that a large number of players dont like before implementing it.?
Go find some nice communism to keep you warm.
lawled 
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
Pyramid quoting is prohibited.Applebabe
I pay to keep my main and my alt active every month. How is that fair to me to get my money worth when you may let your accounts go inactive and get the same services I get, but for free. I will continue to pay my $30 a month (lil less actually since I buy in bulk) but CCP has made it balanced.
People keep complaining about "it's not the money, it's that they are sneaky bastards." but everyone who says that, says they can't afford to run x ammount of accounts anymore. Sounds like money issues to me.
lol... It's fair because you have the same option that I have to do so. No one told you you had to pay that month, you did because you wanted to play with both accounts. It would be unfair if I was given the option and you were not.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Juntar Solarwind
I'm not saying its a country, just pointing out that you maybe willing to step aside and let this game go, but we as players have an option to discuss our opinions and actually have a chance, how ever small it maybe, to change there decision. So by all means, step aside, I will not.
I pay to keep my main and my alt active every month. How is that fair to me to get my money worth when you may let your accounts go inactive and get the same services I get, but for free. I will continue to pay my $30 a month (lil less actually since I buy in bulk) but CCP has made it balanced.
People keep complaining about "it's not the money, it's that they are sneaky bastards." but everyone who says that, says they can't afford to run x ammount of accounts anymore. Sounds like money issues to me.
lol... It's fair because you have the same option that I have to do so. No one told you you had to pay that month, you did because you wanted to play with both accounts. It would be unfair if I was given the option and you were not.
So you don't want to play on your second account, or can't afford it, or forgot to pay your bill, but think you should still be receiving the benefit of "offline progression". Hmm... let me not pay my light bill this month and see what happens next month.
Does your light bill(electric company) allow you to do that? No, invalid argument to fairness point. You just went from talking about the fairness of this being implemented to talking about the reason behind keeping it... Anyway my reasons are simply.
1. Bring people back to the game
2. Allows people to have a RL
3. Makes it easier to run several accounts
4. Makes grinding long skills tolerable
5. Adds a unique "I don't feel like I HAVE to play the game to enjoy it" factor
Point 5 is the main reason I started EVE, with other mmo's you feel like you have to be there to get anything out of it. Eve not only with the offline, but the inactive account skill training made me comfortable with playing it on my own time.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Terail Zoqial
It's about freaking time, hell, it's bad enough without the macro's that we have a bunch of free loaders using bandwidth we pay for. Hope the whining carebears leave tbh.
Ghost Training takes no bandwidth.... the account is inactive. All it takes is space on the server to record the skill that is being trained, the time it will take to finish, and the time it was started.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zabaticus
I've been reading this blog with interest and have posted my agreement with the removal of this feature a couple of times. I am struck by the people that say they are the player base and CCP better listen to them. These couple of hundred that have posted and reposted are not the player base. They are whiners that are upset because they can't game "The Game" anymore. Tough - leave. The tens of thousands of players that don't use this gambit will be glad to see you go. They are the real "Player Base" that CCP is supporting.
Zabaticus
There have almost been 90 pages of post about people talking about this issue, with about 80% or more that are against it in less then a day. I agree there are many individuals(including myself) posting several different points, but there are still plenty of different people to make a good portion of the player base. Again note, it has not even been a full day yet, many more will voice there opinions.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Someone summed it up nicely in the sea of posts overnight.
CCP will see a massive amount of resubscriptions in the short term as characters affected by this log on to train skills. They will also see a massive influx of income from transfer fees between characters.
Clearly they need cash quickly and are counting on being able to recover from the lost accounts gradually over the next year.
Sore point is, if you'd come out with that first, you'd have more new subscriptions from people showing support. Now we just think you are money grubbing.
Let's see if you actually recover after this, I hope the short burst of income was really neccessary.
Yak
I think I made that basic point before about the quick influx of money.
<--- Nail alt, good to see another former TFC person
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Originally by: Hun Jakuza
Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Documented in the guide != Advertised as a feature.
Documented advertise in the guide = Advertised as a feature.
As has been pointed out before: Microsoft documents the Blue Screen of Death in their Windows user guide, so by your logic the BSoD is advertised as a feature of Windows.
=Fail.
You have been told this before... The BSD is a feature of Windows, getting helpful information on why the OS crashed is a good thing. (unlike mac) The failure itself is not documented because its not intended.
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INF Wonderwoman
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Posted - 2008.10.14 20:11:00 -
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I have come to the conclusion that CCP will not change there decision no matter how long this thread gets. The main reason being that they not only have blown us off completely, but they told everyone two days before it happens. I personally will cancel my two alt accounts and play only on my main until I find a time that I need to take a break (finals/family) and at this point I most likely wont come back. Was a good run, thanks for all the fish!!
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